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		<title>By: Surfwalker</title>
		<link>http://newcombat.net/Conversation/2008/11/04/election-day/comment-page-1/#comment-4830</link>
		<dc:creator>Surfwalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ominous&quot; represents a value judgment I&#039;m trying to withhold. This is, after all, a season for hope. But I don&#039;t doubt that Obama will step into the role that his astounding international popularity makes possible. And I think he meant it when he said &quot;the dream of our founders is still alive in this time.&quot; His legacy, like any other, will be open to abuse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ominous&#8221; represents a value judgment I&#8217;m trying to withhold. This is, after all, a season for hope. But I don&#8217;t doubt that Obama will step into the role that his astounding international popularity makes possible. And I think he meant it when he said &#8220;the dream of our founders is still alive in this time.&#8221; His legacy, like any other, will be open to abuse.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>http://newcombat.net/Conversation/2008/11/04/election-day/comment-page-1/#comment-4828</link>
		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 00:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There IS something neat, short &amp; sweet about &quot;Yes we can.&quot;

And this display of Soft Power IS something of a chastisement -- not only for the wielders of Hard Power, but also for people like me who sit around trying to figure out their motions and emotions.
Not sure what you mean by the future being &quot;a lot more open than we thought.&quot;

And not sure what you sense in the last paragraph -- something ominous, you mean?
(Eg, Obama is a closet North American Unionist?) ???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There IS something neat, short &#038; sweet about &#8220;Yes we can.&#8221;</p>
<p>And this display of Soft Power IS something of a chastisement &#8212; not only for the wielders of Hard Power, but also for people like me who sit around trying to figure out their motions and emotions.<br />
Not sure what you mean by the future being &#8220;a lot more open than we thought.&#8221;</p>
<p>And not sure what you sense in the last paragraph &#8212; something ominous, you mean?<br />
(Eg, Obama is a closet North American Unionist?) ???</p>
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		<title>By: Surfwalker</title>
		<link>http://newcombat.net/Conversation/2008/11/04/election-day/comment-page-1/#comment-4827</link>
		<dc:creator>Surfwalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œProtestedâ€ may be too strong. But maybe Iâ€™m inclined to see the cup as somewhat fuller than you do.  I think the gains in the House and Senate speak for themselves. Obama can take this thing anywhere he wants to, at least from the start. Iâ€™m a little afraid that where he wants to take it may involve too many voluntary concessions to Republicans in the name of bipartisanship. But Iâ€™m coming more and more to appreciate his soft power. â€œYes we can,â€ for all its prima facie fuzziness, is a flat response to â€œno you canâ€™t.â€ 
 
In terms of transforming the political landscape, Iâ€™m thinking in two directions.  The first is easy to feel but hard to pin down â€“ a sense that the future just might be a lot more open than we thought.  Time will tell, and trying to make predictions at this point would involve a category mistake.

The second is more concrete, though still just a notion. As Iâ€™ve watched Obama over the last year, Iâ€™ve had a sense that the presumptuous way of speaking of the U.S. president as â€œleader of the free worldâ€ could, in his case, take on a dimension that it didnâ€™t have before. I donâ€™t know what the long-term ramifications of this will be for the trajectory of the U.S. as a political unit. But Iâ€™m feeling, however much I wish I was part of the celebration over there, that this could be a pretty good time to be far out in the American diaspora.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œProtestedâ€ may be too strong. But maybe Iâ€™m inclined to see the cup as somewhat fuller than you do.  I think the gains in the House and Senate speak for themselves. Obama can take this thing anywhere he wants to, at least from the start. Iâ€™m a little afraid that where he wants to take it may involve too many voluntary concessions to Republicans in the name of bipartisanship. But Iâ€™m coming more and more to appreciate his soft power. â€œYes we can,â€ for all its prima facie fuzziness, is a flat response to â€œno you canâ€™t.â€ </p>
<p>In terms of transforming the political landscape, Iâ€™m thinking in two directions.  The first is easy to feel but hard to pin down â€“ a sense that the future just might be a lot more open than we thought.  Time will tell, and trying to make predictions at this point would involve a category mistake.</p>
<p>The second is more concrete, though still just a notion. As Iâ€™ve watched Obama over the last year, Iâ€™ve had a sense that the presumptuous way of speaking of the U.S. president as â€œleader of the free worldâ€ could, in his case, take on a dimension that it didnâ€™t have before. I donâ€™t know what the long-term ramifications of this will be for the trajectory of the U.S. as a political unit. But Iâ€™m feeling, however much I wish I was part of the celebration over there, that this could be a pretty good time to be far out in the American diaspora.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>http://newcombat.net/Conversation/2008/11/04/election-day/comment-page-1/#comment-4816</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 02:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And aha, at 9:23, NBC calls OHIO for BHO.

It&#039;s now possible for him to lose Florida, Virginia, North Carolina and Indiana, and New Mex, Nevada and Colorado, and still win so long as he gets the northern midwesters and the three on the pacific coast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And aha, at 9:23, NBC calls OHIO for BHO.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s now possible for him to lose Florida, Virginia, North Carolina and Indiana, and New Mex, Nevada and Colorado, and still win so long as he gets the northern midwesters and the three on the pacific coast.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aha! 8 pm. 

Networks are calling Pennsylvania for BHO.

One of the big four or five question marks in the east. PA OH VA NC and FL.

Very hard for McPalin to win if indeed Pennsy has gone Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aha! 8 pm. </p>
<p>Networks are calling Pennsylvania for BHO.</p>
<p>One of the big four or five question marks in the east. PA OH VA NC and FL.</p>
<p>Very hard for McPalin to win if indeed Pennsy has gone Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 23:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SURFWALKER protested &lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://newcombat.net/Conversation/2008/11/03/years-in-the-wilderness/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; yesterday that Obama&#039;s mandate would be HUGE.Â  I&#039;m copying my response below to promote conversation:

I do agree the mandate is huge spiritually. And maybe spirit, for once, will matter.

As for &quot;transforming the political landscape&quot; ...  I&#039;ll wait and see.

Certainly the internet has transformed campaign technique.  That&#039;s a revolution. Beginning in 2004 with the Dean campaign.

But politics per se ...   Reason to think things haven&#039;t changed much since the democracy of Athens collapsed after a misadventurous war into a series of incompetent tyrannies.Â  One of which put Socrates to death for corrupting the youth with critical conversation.

It&#039;s just this darn deja vu ... Harking back to 1992. When it seemed, finally, Reaganism had been banished.

This time it may be different, but thanks not to Barack as much as to the collapse of the finance system.

I hope, that is, for a double whammy that will stick: The death of Reaganism/Thatcherism/Neo-liberalism, on its own terms, while whatever precisely Team Obama will cook up has a chance to simmer.

I&#039;ve been studying (again) the latest 60s Assassinations evidence and lore to come to light. The faux legal assault on Clinton, right out of the gate -- a right-wing conspiracy for sure if less than vast -- was assasination of a spiritual sort. The monsters have grown subtle.

I wish BHO had taken Hillary along as VP -- to serve as effective (physical) assassination insurance.  If he succeeds in making effective policy and making it stick, two or three years hence V.P. Biden (whom I admire) may seem an invitation to the murderous unpatriotic crackpots and militarists among us.

Dog bless and speed President Obama through his trial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SURFWALKER protested <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://newcombat.net/Conversation/2008/11/03/years-in-the-wilderness/" rel="nofollow">here</a> yesterday that Obama&#8217;s mandate would be HUGE.Â  I&#8217;m copying my response below to promote conversation:</p>
<p>I do agree the mandate is huge spiritually. And maybe spirit, for once, will matter.</p>
<p>As for &#8220;transforming the political landscape&#8221; &#8230;  I&#8217;ll wait and see.</p>
<p>Certainly the internet has transformed campaign technique.  That&#8217;s a revolution. Beginning in 2004 with the Dean campaign.</p>
<p>But politics per se &#8230;   Reason to think things haven&#8217;t changed much since the democracy of Athens collapsed after a misadventurous war into a series of incompetent tyrannies.Â  One of which put Socrates to death for corrupting the youth with critical conversation.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just this darn deja vu &#8230; Harking back to 1992. When it seemed, finally, Reaganism had been banished.</p>
<p>This time it may be different, but thanks not to Barack as much as to the collapse of the finance system.</p>
<p>I hope, that is, for a double whammy that will stick: The death of Reaganism/Thatcherism/Neo-liberalism, on its own terms, while whatever precisely Team Obama will cook up has a chance to simmer.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been studying (again) the latest 60s Assassinations evidence and lore to come to light. The faux legal assault on Clinton, right out of the gate &#8212; a right-wing conspiracy for sure if less than vast &#8212; was assasination of a spiritual sort. The monsters have grown subtle.</p>
<p>I wish BHO had taken Hillary along as VP &#8212; to serve as effective (physical) assassination insurance.  If he succeeds in making effective policy and making it stick, two or three years hence V.P. Biden (whom I admire) may seem an invitation to the murderous unpatriotic crackpots and militarists among us.</p>
<p>Dog bless and speed President Obama through his trial.</p>
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