September 20th, 2008

Are we, indeed, at war with Pakistan?

Posted in Mideast & Oil by ed


We wondered aloud this past Wednesday (echoing Robert Baer) if the US was already at war with Pakistan.

(Monday the Pakis had apparently intercepted two Yank helicopters at the Afghan border and turned them back.

Tuesday the Paki brass told the americans to stop attacking across the border and vowed to repulse.

Wednesday the Yanks — They Who Strike from Afar — sent in a Predator drone which launched missiles that killed five.

Friday Secy of Defense Gates flipped the Pakis the bird, telling them tough noogies and we’ll do as we please.)

Now, Saturday morning, the new Paki president, Asif Ali Zardari (Benazir Bhutto’s somewhat corrupt and hapless widower) in his first speech to parliament, supports the War on Terror but insists that Paki sovereignty and borders must be respected.


And shortly after, during a reception at the presidential palace a few hundred yards away, an immense truck bomb blows up the Islamabad Marriott, home away from home for american diplomats, journalists and other transient elites.  Killing (so far) 55 and wounding hundreds.


Polls show most Pakis loathe the shotgun alliance with the US that reshaped shortly after 9/11. Most hate Bush-Cheney and see them as pawns of the Zionist conspiracy that arranged the current Iraq war.

Musharraf never looked comfortable presiding in that hotseat between his people and the new American cowboys.

And his recent resignation is best seen (I submit) as evidence that the anti-US faction (heavily weighted in the various security forces — the secret police having fairly clearly conspired, indeed, in the 9/11 attacks) is approaching critical mass.


Pakistan, then, may soon erupt — or perhaps today did — in a civil war that seems likely to involve the American forces across the border.

Or … are we already at war with Pakistan?


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  1. ed says:

    Two days later (the 22nd) Pakistan says it has again fired on two US helicopters to turn them back across the border.

    And a top Al Qaeda Pakistan fellow tells press they didn’t blow up the Marriot.

    September 22nd, 2008 at 10:04 am

  2. ed says:

    A day later the US denies that this second repulsion of two choppers took place.

    And a Predator drone is said to crash in Pakistan, largely intact.

    September 23rd, 2008 at 4:55 pm

  3. ed says:

    Two days later, in yet another incident, NATO complains publicly (for first time, it seems) that Pakistan shot at their helicopters:

    Sep 25, 2008 9:15 am US/Eastern

    NATO: Pakistani Troops Fired On Our Helicopters

    KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) ― NATO says Pakistani troops fired at their helicopters patrolling eastern Afghanistan, but no damage is reported.

    In a statement, NATO says its helicopters did not cross into Pakistan’s airspace when they came under fire near Tanai district of Khost province.

    The shooting follows a number of alleged incursions at the Pakistan-Afghan border in recent days. A drone believed to be operated by the CIA crashed inside Pakistan on Wednesday.

    September 25th, 2008 at 8:47 am

  4. ed says:

    Today (Thursday):

    – Pakistan responds that it is shooting “flares” (according to one report) or “warning shots” at the border to ward off US/NATO intrusions.

    – Washington announces it is suspending services at the US consulate in Islamabad.

    – And the Islamic Commandos, who claimed bragging rights for the Marriott bombing, have sent the country spinning with new threats.

    From The Australian:

    A FULL-SCALE emergency was sounded at Islamabad’s international airport last night as the al-Qa’ida-linked organisation responsible for bombing Pakistan’s Marriott hotel vowed to launch even bigger attacks.

    In a mobile phone message in English sent to reporters, the al-Qa’ida-linked [Ed: MEANS WHAT?] Fidayeen-al-Islam — “Islamic commandos” — warned that “all those who facilitate Americans and NATO crusaders like (Marriott hotel owner) Sadruddin Hashwani, they will keep on receiving blows.”

    The group claimed it attacked the Marriott because 250 US marines and NATO troops were staying there – something denied by the US embassy.

    Fifty-three people were killed in the attack, the worst terrorist strike in Pakistan.

    Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari declared his country to be “in a state of war”, while intelligence agencies said they had “credible and verifiable” information of an imminent suicide bomb attack.

    September 25th, 2008 at 11:25 am

  5. ed says:

    And now, aha.

    US and Paki ground troops are reported by the Times to be exchanging gunfire at the border.

    ED NOTE:  Click the link above to continue following events in the comments there.

    September 25th, 2008 at 2:32 pm

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